Well its taken about a month mailing lots and lots of e-mail's I now have planes of a Norfolk Keel from @norfolk.gov.uk
named "Dee Dar" built about 1790 and was reshaped twice and sunk 1890 she was 54ft 55ft and about 18ft wide with a 3ft hull

proper Norfolk Keels and NOT Humber Keels

well plans enlarged and drawn but looks like i might have to redraw them as they don't look right i just wonder if the plans i have might be as the ship was found and not built so will tweek the plans remember she sat for about 100 years as a bank support filled with dirt/sand/stone

Norfolk keel and a Humber keel totally different in size and shape so unable to use

well I have started first build using off cuts of 1/8 ply to see if the plans work out and I can correct modify them if needed

looking for help when I get to sail control, building single square rigged keel asking best way to do this run 4 lines or AB CD

so it starts this is it so for next will be starting the planking this has been a pain so far in just trying to get the info on a boat built in 1888 and local to 1 region of the UK the Norfolk Archaeological unit have been a great help, so here is a bow / stern shot of progress

just found a nice clear photo of a keel this will provide me with a better view of the bow section which as missing

started and more on the keel's keel note how the planking finishes on the hull

started and more on the keel's keel